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12th May 2025

After Dinner Chats, Ripped Off Less Ep1: Truth, Talent & Transparency

Welcome to the After Dinner Chats series, where we connect with fascinating people, always a little bit senior, always a bit shinier than most, to see what’s coming around the corner in the vibrant, and sometimes bewildering, worlds of media, marketing, and ad tech.

These episodes will be triple-headers, diving deep into how we can all get 'Ripped Off Less' with insights from three industry powerhouses.

And a big thank you to our sponsor for this episode, jobsinadtech.com, the only jobs board dedicated to digital media and the ad tech industry – if you're hiring, use promo code JWPOD for a 10% discount. It’s where ad tech finds its next role.

First up, I chatted with Deborah Gbadamosi, a Global Client Lead at Mindshare. Deborah shed light on "TruthSets," a US initiative grading data quality to reduce media waste – a concept we'd love to see go global. She also championed using AI for genuine efficiency, making those non-working media dollars finally sweat, and shared her passion for DE&I, urging businesses to continue supporting underrepresented groups – not as charity, but as smart strategy.

Then, I caught up with Jon Walsh, the man behind the ubiquitous ad tech WhatsApp communities and founder of our sponsor, jobsinadtech.com. Jon’s North Star is efficiency, whether it's creating a focused, quality-driven job site to counteract LinkedIn's "spray and pray" approach, or fostering the 50+ ad tech chat groups that have become the industry's digital water cooler. He shared the origin story of these vital communities and his belief in the power of narrative, drawing parallels with the boxing world.

Finally, I was thrilled to speak with Julia Linehan, founder and CEO of The Digital Voice PR agency. Julia passionately discussed the ad industry's talent challenge, advocating for better investment in people to make it an appealing career path once more. As a founding advisor of the UK Stop Ad Fraud Coalition, she detailed their "Know Your Customer" initiative, a crucial step in cleaning up the ecosystem. Julia also champions an outputs-driven, transparent approach in her own agency, ensuring clients truly see value.

From data integrity and AI efficiency with Deborah, to community building and laser-focused recruitment with Jon, and tackling ad fraud and championing industry talent with Julia, this episode is packed with actionable insights. We explore the importance of authentic narratives, the drive for smarter spending, and the unwavering belief in the power of people and community to navigate our ever-evolving industry. Tune in for a dose of wisdom, wit, and a clearer view of what’s next.

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About the Podcast

After Dinner Chats
Ripped Off Less
These conversations started over dinners where I get to introduce everyone at the table in a way that interests me.

Dinners are always fun. And sometimes useful, but the end of the day doesn’t really matter if it’s fun or useful it’s just the fact that we are all there connecting and making sure that we can all see what’s coming round the corner.

And the next thing we’ve got to do is to stay in touch with each other.

Yes, we have ended up having dinner parties where people have made new jobs, got new contacts for work . For me, it’s been just a way over the last 17 years to get to know the fabulous people who are always a little bit senior and a little bit fun and a little bit smarter, brighter, shinier than most!